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Illegal immigrants do - and will - get free ER treatment
More than a month has passed since Rep. Joe Wilson's "you lie" moment during President Obama's health care speech to Congress. And, since then, as the debate over health care reform has raged on, it's been picked over and dissected by the media and has served as a launching pad for a range of discussions on civility, race and congressional conduct. A couple weeks ago it even inspired a copycat outburst by a Bay Area assemblyman directed at Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. But at its core, Wilson's comment was - and still is - really about one thing: making sure the health care reform bill spelled out how the federal government would prevent illegal immigrants from receiving federal health insurance subsidies.
05 Nov 2009 @ 02:24 am
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From conservative1 - 07 Nov 2009 @ 01:49 pm
Will they be covered for lead poisoning? Because, that's what will eventually happen in this country if it doesn't wise up. I bet there isn't a Physician anywhere that can cure .300 magnum disease. Yes, they're primitive, it's been proven by science..even medical science. Compare the cultures and take a look at history, even now. Oh, yeah, Lenin would love this bill . Enforce Immigration laws, and the health problem will fix itself once they're removed.
From fredrickson - 07 Nov 2009 @ 01:11 pm
In Reply to hospitalmd: OBAMA DID LIE
From hospitalmd - 07 Nov 2009 @ 12:18 pm
In Reply to zarinda:
Here is what I see: The Emergency Dept. calls me and tells me there is a patient who needs admission for... heart attack, skin infection, pneumonia, whatever. I go downstairs and admit the patient, write orders, and they are transferred up to the hospital floor.
Then the social workers come and review the case. They sometimes help fill out Medicaid forms, etc. for the patient ( otherwise the hospital never gets paid).
When my employer submits a bill to this patient later ( after they have gone home), it is "written off" as uncollectable. Either the patient's name and/ or address are false, or they've moved on and are nowhere to be found, or they simply don't respond to pay the bill. My understanding is that it is a waste of time and money to refer them to collections, as they can't be found. The rarer instances that the bill does get paid is when the patient has been signed up for Medicaid - then Medicaid covers it.

They have no expectation that they will be responsible for any of the cost of their care.

Conversely, legal resident patients ( immigrant or not, poor or not) are billed, sent to collections, etc.. They have the expectation that they will be responsible for the costs. They, if poor, will often ask us to discharge them home as quickly as possible, to avoid increasing their bill. It is a big stressor for them during their hospitalization.

I do not recall a time when my illegal immigrant patients have asked to be discharged home quickly, etc. due to worries about their bill.
From zarinda - 07 Nov 2009 @ 11:15 am
HospitalMD:
Please explain to me exactly how the illegals get the care for free.
HOw EXACTLY does it go down. I want to know so I can get free health care like the illegals. Please explain.

Is it as simple as saying at check in at the hospital you have no insurance and no social security number? And then you doctors say: "ok. I will treat you without any expectation of payment" ?
We need to know how to do it.
From fredrickson - 05 Nov 2009 @ 08:54 am
In Reply to Marin Local: I think you have been here before...
From Marin Local - 05 Nov 2009 @ 08:34 am
In Reply to hospitalmd: -Good post, and I totally agree. There are so many serious issues regarding illegal immigration right now. -So much 'slant' in pro-illegal agenda articles to shed some light on. -There needs to be more people informed on what the La Raza rhetoric really means. -And after years of our media bombarding us w/this agenda, some people are finally getting 'smart'. -Now look for that rhetoric to change...These boards could be more helpful with out the 'circle jerk' mentality, that has nothing to do w/practical, moral, legal, or informative means of this crisis. -On the article, yes illegals will probably always be able to use the emergency room, and have essentially free health care as long as they're here(not that I agree w/it). The scary part of the health care bill was that it was just another part of Amnesty, w/o having to pass a bill, somthing that our politicians have been quite successful with.
From Gorilla - 05 Nov 2009 @ 07:53 am
The problem with 'Illegal Immigrants' was created in Washington D.C. by our elected officials.

Obama, Pelosi, Reid and others "do lie", 'Illegal Immigrants' will receive health care under the proposed Health Care Plan HR 3962.

Call your reps. - Democrats, Republican and Independents - demand the legislation exclude 'Illegal Immigrants' from 'our' health care system. While your at it tell them to deport all 'Illegal Immigrants'.
From aps1937 - 05 Nov 2009 @ 06:16 am
In Reply to hospitalmd:
my wife had a concussion and we can not afford health insurance. The hospital bill came to over $2500 and they wanted their money. went to HHS and I made $14.00 to much to get help now I am being sued so I had to hire an lawyer and go after the home owner where she fell. BUT she is an legal immigrant it would have been better if she was illegal
From Heartwood - 05 Nov 2009 @ 05:55 am
"If you hire them, they will come." If they come then they will need medical care. If you allow them to work and at the same time allow them to stay anomous then they will drive cars and even trucks, and eventually they will run into you. If you allow them to drive away from a police officer, after getting a ticket for faulty equipment, no license, registration, insurance, or identification of any kind,(which is what homeland security is now requiring,) then eventually they will kill someone that you love, and escape anomously to Mexico. And you pay taxes to require all this "civil behavior," as my personal hero, John McCain puts it. These pro-illegal folks need a keeper. I really appreciate the post from Hospitalmd.
From hospitalmd - 05 Nov 2009 @ 05:13 am
It is unhelpful and unfortunate to see people posting racist comments. It detracts from discussion of what is going on...

I am a Physician and care for illegal immigrants. There is no expectation that they will pay for their care. Conversely, my legal resident patients ( immigrant or not), are billed, sent to collections, etc.. often w/ personal financially devastating consequences. I, and my colleagues, make rounds on these patients, perform surgeries, cardiac caths, etc. etc. completely for free. Our legal resident patients do not receive such free care.

This situation will continue, under any of the health care bills I have seen advanced.
From snark - 05 Nov 2009 @ 04:34 am
its all about turning Us into a third world country
From conservative1 - 05 Nov 2009 @ 03:34 am
I know how to prevent it.
From cudzuqueen - 05 Nov 2009 @ 02:40 am
Repeal the law...only treat these leeches if their health issues are life-threatening...let them suck up their tummy aches, sore throats and hangnails.







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